Excellent post....It seems to me if you want the real deal one must go to the vendors original website. Yes, more expensive but one's health is worth the cost. Pax
Dammit! There are some things that just can't be grown in the herb garden and they know we're at their mercy for them. I guess we need some serious consumer-driven pressure on the mfgrs - maybe refuse to buy anything that hasn't been tested w/ a lot # and documentation by Mike's lab (or similar reputable). That's gonna jack up the price of everything totally out of reach for a lot of people though. Probably including me too.
I dont know what the solution is. Just spit-balling here: I wonder if there is the legal ability for new 100% worker-owned cooperative corporations (similar to the Mondragon model) to form here in the US for the express purpose of producing and/or sourcing domestically generated, clean, non-GMO, non-nano laced ingredients and manufacturing supplements here in the US - for only the cost of doing business.
When I say "the cost of doing business", that includes paying all the worker/owners a nice but not exorbitant living wage + benefits, and allocating maybe 10-15% profit to put back into ongoing R&D and/or business improvements / product line expansion startup costs. I think the Mondragon model also includes a percentage to "give back" to the community in some form of development. In this case, that might include reduced price assistance for the very poor who want to buy their products instead of cheap fake crap off Amazon or Walmart....
Would still need a bunch of very rich angel investors to front some serious startup cash for this, and you know damn well the odds of that are slim to none - unless they get operational control. Which would not work, as it would compromise the commitment to clean ingredients pretty damn quickly. You know how addicted to quarterly profits those fuckers are...
"Dammit! There are some things that just can't be grown in the herb garden and they know we're at their mercy for them. I guess we need some serious consumer-driven pressure on the mfgrs"
I use a lot of herbs and spices as medicine. I buy all my stuff in bulk from Mountainroseherbs. I trust them completely and they have a good selection. BE CAREFUL IF YOU GO TO THAT SITE AND MAKE SURE YOU PUT AN "S" ON THE WORD HERB. ITS HERBS PLURAL. HERB SINGULAR WILL TAKE YOU TO A RIPOFF SITE.
Don’t eat any supplements, they are all poison. The so called Vitamin D makes your bones weaker etc. After I stopped with all the supplements that I took, my body is healing from muscle pain.
After reading Agents articles on supps that was enough for me. No more synthetic supplements for me. My supplements are raw organic herbs and spices only. I order my magnesium chlorate from Ancient Minerals. Its REAL magnesium from a magnesium deposit.
I have been very suspicious of supplements for years now ... I listen to my body ... and stay informed, try to make the best decisions I can. So tired of this assault on our health!
Dr. McCullough released some info today stating 74% of deaths are from the CV shots. My heart breaks for those who were coerced into taking the jab to keep a job. Are we any closer to Justice? Arrests? Hangings for Crimes Against Humanity? Once the world sees what happens to those who cause harm, perhaps we will be safer in the future?
We are so behind the curve - we will NEVER even approach the curve - when they are throwing new ones at us all the time.
Over 100 million farm animals have been injected with mRNA - and it is ongoing...and our leaders are clueless, useless, asleep at the wheel, for the most part...incremental changes are not going to do it...once again, band aids on a beheading...
All the ghoulz should have already been hunted down...but we are so V2K'ed into surrender and complacency, that it will never happen...
I hear you, but I also see a different future than this. I see a huge awakening of consciousness that changes everything ... it is coming ... but in the meantime, we will see destruction of the old guard which will cause much pain and chaos (as they fight to take us down with them), necessary to awaken the Normies and remove the evil before we can build a new world. I will never give up ... and I see the Cosmic support is here for us ... I know it is hard to trust in anything during this dangerous period, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.
I would think that it's safer to purchase directly online from the manufacturer than from a store. No telling where the store is getting its products. Chances are that the stores are also purchasing from the least expensive supplier rather than from the manufacturer.
Thanks for this. I've been purchasing my supplements for years from Vitacost. My NOW supplements all have the purple caps. Do you think that we now can't trust any suppliers other then the manufacturer?
What allows you to assume that you can trust "the manufacturer," when so much if this stuff is just white labeled bulk product, and none of it is regulated in any meaningful way at all (in USA)?
Honestly I don't think you can trust anything these days...but you hope that there's some vitamin C - or whatever you think you need at the time - mixed in with the Q dots or graphene or viagra...or whatever...the risk is sometimes warranted?
I use full script . My integrative medicine doctor recommended it. Pure encapsulation brand, expensive. I take stuff based on blood work and genetic weaknesses need extra support.
In the 70’s and 80’s, my aunt had a literal fishing tackle box full of supplements but she bought the cheapest ones. She got liver disease from the made in china junk. At least we speculate that’s what happened.
Thanks Pasheen! We'll just keep doing our best. I was so looking forward to shopping at Whole Foods after I had heard they were coming to town. Then Bezos bought it. I refuse to support him or any like him! I went in once just to check it out and use the bathroom! No one should be shopping Amazon anyway, but on occasion, if need be!
Good info. Thanx for the heads up. I have been hearing about the counterfeit problem at Amazon for a long time but probably didn't give it enough notice. After reading this I won't buy anything from them but hard tangible items. Nothing i'm putting in my body.
I just bought some cold pressed castor oil from Amazon and it seems really thin...now i'm wondering if its real...hmmm
"and of course if you read Agent’s substack - he will scare the supplements right out of you"
Excellent post....It seems to me if you want the real deal one must go to the vendors original website. Yes, more expensive but one's health is worth the cost. Pax
Or a trusted practitioner such as myself that buys direct (and then sells to clients)
So, a trusted quack, instead of ...?
Exactly. Trusted quacks that actually help people to be healthier!
Blow me, you filthy grifter.
Thanks for posting. I have a NOW selenium but think it’s real. Has a purple cap. Hopefully this catches attention and gets fixed.
Dammit! There are some things that just can't be grown in the herb garden and they know we're at their mercy for them. I guess we need some serious consumer-driven pressure on the mfgrs - maybe refuse to buy anything that hasn't been tested w/ a lot # and documentation by Mike's lab (or similar reputable). That's gonna jack up the price of everything totally out of reach for a lot of people though. Probably including me too.
I dont know what the solution is. Just spit-balling here: I wonder if there is the legal ability for new 100% worker-owned cooperative corporations (similar to the Mondragon model) to form here in the US for the express purpose of producing and/or sourcing domestically generated, clean, non-GMO, non-nano laced ingredients and manufacturing supplements here in the US - for only the cost of doing business.
When I say "the cost of doing business", that includes paying all the worker/owners a nice but not exorbitant living wage + benefits, and allocating maybe 10-15% profit to put back into ongoing R&D and/or business improvements / product line expansion startup costs. I think the Mondragon model also includes a percentage to "give back" to the community in some form of development. In this case, that might include reduced price assistance for the very poor who want to buy their products instead of cheap fake crap off Amazon or Walmart....
Would still need a bunch of very rich angel investors to front some serious startup cash for this, and you know damn well the odds of that are slim to none - unless they get operational control. Which would not work, as it would compromise the commitment to clean ingredients pretty damn quickly. You know how addicted to quarterly profits those fuckers are...
"Dammit! There are some things that just can't be grown in the herb garden and they know we're at their mercy for them. I guess we need some serious consumer-driven pressure on the mfgrs"
I use a lot of herbs and spices as medicine. I buy all my stuff in bulk from Mountainroseherbs. I trust them completely and they have a good selection. BE CAREFUL IF YOU GO TO THAT SITE AND MAKE SURE YOU PUT AN "S" ON THE WORD HERB. ITS HERBS PLURAL. HERB SINGULAR WILL TAKE YOU TO A RIPOFF SITE.
I also use frontiercoop and I trust them too.
Yes, I buy from both of those companies. But there are still things that can't be grown in the herb garden that some of us need to live. Like T3...
Don’t eat any supplements, they are all poison. The so called Vitamin D makes your bones weaker etc. After I stopped with all the supplements that I took, my body is healing from muscle pain.
After reading Agents articles on supps that was enough for me. No more synthetic supplements for me. My supplements are raw organic herbs and spices only. I order my magnesium chlorate from Ancient Minerals. Its REAL magnesium from a magnesium deposit.
Glad for the heads up! I get my stuff locally and I know Amazon has sketchy inventory practices.
But if your local vendor gets the stuff supplied via Amazon you are just as exposed to fake products.
exactly...and who has the time to investigate every vendor for every freaking supp...Russian roulette...all of it...
💞💋
I have been very suspicious of supplements for years now ... I listen to my body ... and stay informed, try to make the best decisions I can. So tired of this assault on our health!
Dr. McCullough released some info today stating 74% of deaths are from the CV shots. My heart breaks for those who were coerced into taking the jab to keep a job. Are we any closer to Justice? Arrests? Hangings for Crimes Against Humanity? Once the world sees what happens to those who cause harm, perhaps we will be safer in the future?
We are so behind the curve - we will NEVER even approach the curve - when they are throwing new ones at us all the time.
Over 100 million farm animals have been injected with mRNA - and it is ongoing...and our leaders are clueless, useless, asleep at the wheel, for the most part...incremental changes are not going to do it...once again, band aids on a beheading...
All the ghoulz should have already been hunted down...but we are so V2K'ed into surrender and complacency, that it will never happen...
Debbie Downer is in the house today...
but, LYM
I hear you, but I also see a different future than this. I see a huge awakening of consciousness that changes everything ... it is coming ... but in the meantime, we will see destruction of the old guard which will cause much pain and chaos (as they fight to take us down with them), necessary to awaken the Normies and remove the evil before we can build a new world. I will never give up ... and I see the Cosmic support is here for us ... I know it is hard to trust in anything during this dangerous period, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Thx for the hit of positivity!!! I always need it...!!~~!
Its safe if we all assume contamination until proven otherwise these days.
Now?- No thanks.
Yikes.
I guess it's just better to shop in person, in store for your stuff.
Don't shop online for stuff that goes in your body!
Thanks PS. This is great info
I would think that it's safer to purchase directly online from the manufacturer than from a store. No telling where the store is getting its products. Chances are that the stores are also purchasing from the least expensive supplier rather than from the manufacturer.
True enough. And the people that foolishly spend money in the Whole Foods franchise need to know who owns it and what he really is.
YW...
THANK YOU! Important info.
YW
Pasheen,
Thanks for this. I've been purchasing my supplements for years from Vitacost. My NOW supplements all have the purple caps. Do you think that we now can't trust any suppliers other then the manufacturer?
What allows you to assume that you can trust "the manufacturer," when so much if this stuff is just white labeled bulk product, and none of it is regulated in any meaningful way at all (in USA)?
True. But, if one really wants to purchase a particular supplement, NOW has had an excellent reputation among those who sell supplements.
Honestly I don't think you can trust anything these days...but you hope that there's some vitamin C - or whatever you think you need at the time - mixed in with the Q dots or graphene or viagra...or whatever...the risk is sometimes warranted?
Thanks Girlfriend...
you're welcome
E bay too.
I had a subscription for methylcobalamin on Amazon
I stopped it because they were always sold out or the jar was almost expired when I got it.
I use full script . My integrative medicine doctor recommended it. Pure encapsulation brand, expensive. I take stuff based on blood work and genetic weaknesses need extra support.
In the 70’s and 80’s, my aunt had a literal fishing tackle box full of supplements but she bought the cheapest ones. She got liver disease from the made in china junk. At least we speculate that’s what happened.
Thanks Pasheen! We'll just keep doing our best. I was so looking forward to shopping at Whole Foods after I had heard they were coming to town. Then Bezos bought it. I refuse to support him or any like him! I went in once just to check it out and use the bathroom! No one should be shopping Amazon anyway, but on occasion, if need be!
Good info. Thanx for the heads up. I have been hearing about the counterfeit problem at Amazon for a long time but probably didn't give it enough notice. After reading this I won't buy anything from them but hard tangible items. Nothing i'm putting in my body.
I just bought some cold pressed castor oil from Amazon and it seems really thin...now i'm wondering if its real...hmmm
"and of course if you read Agent’s substack - he will scare the supplements right out of you"
Ain't that the truth....roflmao